[LASS Soaring] RE: new plane
GordySoar at aol.com
GordySoar at aol.com
Fri Dec 28 01:56:45 EST 2007
Hi Rob,
I have flown two Experience Pro's, they are very much like the Pike Superior
in performance, a good thing.
Dale Nutter did a review in RC Soaring Digest Magazine this month detailing
his experience using the new Airtronics 2.4 system in a carbon kevlar fuse
sailplane like the Experience Pro. That system has one RX with 6" long
shielded twin antennas, which allow actual antenna wires (1" exposed at each end of
the 6") to be safely routed out thru the walls of the fuse so that the signal
can reach the RX safely. This is not possible with the Spectrum, so no you
can't use the Spectrum system in your Experience fuse. They are working in
2.4 friendly fuses (no carbon in the noses).
I have tested the xtreme system extensively in a Pikes, Sharon, Perfect,
Supra, Organic and AVAs. and it can't be used in them.
Congrats on the new plane! With your 72mhz system , you need to extend your
RX's antenna with enough wire so that 16" (exact length not critical) hangs
out the hingeline of the rudder....or watch your new plane hit the ground.
Applies to pretty much all TD ships flying today...
Gordy
Gordy
In a message dated 12/27/2007 2:05:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
RTerry at engineeringservicesgroup.com writes:
Does anybody out there have a xperience 3.3m by soaring usa I now have
one and need some feed back on it.
The fuse has a carbon weave in it, Does the 2.4 tx radios have a problem
with this? I was thinking of getting one.
Rob T
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Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 13:03:10 -0500
From: Ben Wilson <ben at thelocust.org>
Subject: [LASS Soaring] Winter Meetings are Set!
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(also on the website: http://www.louisvillesoaring.org)
Sunday, January 13th
Sunday, February 10th
Sunday, March 9th
Meeting room at ?Kennedy Place? Patio Homes
Time 1:00 PM
Location is just north of Gene Snyder Freeway at Beulah Church Road
Directions
>From I-64 or east Louisville take first exit AFTER Bardstown Road.
(second exit after Billtown Rd)
Turn right. About 200 feet turn right into complex.
>From I-65 or from the west.
Exit at Buelah Church Road and turn left. Make first right which is
entrance to complex.
After entering complex count three buildings on the left. The meeting
room is across the street from the third building. IMPORTANT- Park in
parking spots that DO NOT HAVE NUMBERS PAINTED IN THE SPOTS. There are
open parking spots on all sides of the meeting room building.
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Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 20:28:53 -0500
From: Hank & Kathy Gullett <kandh2 at mac.com>
Subject: Re: [LASS Soaring] Winter Meetings are Set!
To: LASS Soaring List <soaring at louisvillesoaring.org>
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Can I just get an address for my GPS?
Hank
On Dec 26, 2007, at 1:03 PM, Ben Wilson wrote:
> (also on the website: http://www.louisvillesoaring.org)
>
> Sunday, January 13th
> Sunday, February 10th
> Sunday, March 9th
>
> Meeting room at ?Kennedy Place? Patio Homes
>
> Time 1:00 PM
>
> Location is just north of Gene Snyder Freeway at Beulah Church Road
>
> Directions
> From I-64 or east Louisville take first exit AFTER Bardstown Road.
> (second exit after Billtown Rd)
> Turn right. About 200 feet turn right into complex.
>
> From I-65 or from the west.
> Exit at Buelah Church Road and turn left. Make first right which is
> entrance to complex.
>
> After entering complex count three buildings on the left. The meeting
> room is across the street from the third building.
> IMPORTANT- Park in parking spots that DO NOT HAVE NUMBERS PAINTED IN
> THE SPOTS. There are open parking spots on all sides of the meeting
> room building.
>
>
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Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 23:19:35 EST
From: GordySoar at aol.com
Subject: Re: [LASS Soaring] Winter Meetings are Set!
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Bummer, I'll be in Dubai that weekend :-( Gordy
In a message dated 12/26/2007 1:03:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
ben at thelocust.org writes:
(also on the website: http://www.louisvillesoaring.org)
Sunday, January 13th
Sunday, February 10th
Sunday, March 9th
Meeting room at ???Kennedy Place??? Patio Homes
Time 1:00 PM
Location is just north of Gene Snyder Freeway at Beulah Church Road
Directions
>From I-64 or east Louisville take first exit AFTER Bardstown Road.
(second exit after Billtown Rd)
Turn right. About 200 feet turn right into complex.
>From I-65 or from the west.
Exit at Buelah Church Road and turn left. Make first right which is
entrance to complex.
After entering complex count three buildings on the left. The meeting
room is across the street from the third building. IMPORTANT- Park in
parking spots that DO NOT HAVE NUMBERS PAINTED IN THE SPOTS. There are
open parking spots on all sides of the meeting room building.
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Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 07:55:08 -0500
From: "Brian Kopke" <bkopke at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [LASS Soaring] Really guys only 40 will be flying!
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Where did the magic number of 40 come from. Sorry if I overlooked it in
a previous post.
Brian
On Dec 26, 2007 10:39 AM, David Gruneisen <david.gruneisen at gmail.com>
wrote:
> According to Spektrum (and JR) -
>
> "In the unlikely event that all channels are occupied, the next
> transmitter will scan the band indefinitely until open channels are
> available. The transmitter will then acquire the channel(s) and begin
> transmitting. Only then will the system connect."
>
> So the 10,000 TX handsets can all be on at once - only 40 will find
> and acquire 2 discrete freqs, perform the necessary handshaking and
> actually transmit.
>
> Let's take my office environment as an example of multiple brands of
> 2.4ghz existing in the same environment. There are approximately *60
> devices* from 4 different mfgers (IBM, Dell Nortel and Linksys a *ll
> transmitting and receiving on the SAME frequency*, using only packet
collision detection to keep the individual receivers straight.
>
> I think JR and Futaba might do well to publish the FCC's 2.4g
> standards and their successful test completion documentation to help
> clear up these very reasonable questions about using this old
technology in this new way.
>
>
> -David G
>
>
> On Dec 26, 2007 9:48 AM, <GordySoar at aol.com> wrote:
>
> > Okay Ryan,
> >
> > What keeps the other 60 to 100 guys with various brands of 2.4 in
> > their cars and pits from being on all at once? Impound?
> > gordy
> >
> > In a message dated 12/26/2007 9:31:19 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > rdwoebke at hotmail.com writes:
> >
> >
> > I don't know about the rest of you all but I have seen the # of
> > concurrent systems limitations in a lot of the litareture out there
> > on the Spektrum and the Extreme.
> >
> > The way Spektrum works is if it can't grab the 2 channels to
> > opparate the receiver simply won't start "working". So, assuming we
> > are all being good about doing our "wiggle checks" and if we are
> > doing a good job of checking our "blinkies" as suggested by Don
> > Richmond, should not be an issue there.
> >
> > http://www.spektrumrc.com/DSM/FAQ.aspx
> >
> > So far as our soaring goes, I think it is unlikely we will exceed
> > the 40 "channels" at a soaring event. Take the Nats for example,
> > there might be pilot groups of 10, so perhaps there could be 10 guys
> > turned on and waiting at the winch staging area, 10 guys launching
> > and 10 guys in the air soon landing, but that still leaves 10
> > channels and perhaps a few guys "in the pits" might have radios on
> > fiddling with trims/etc, but worst case one of the 10 guys that is
> > turning on at the staging area just lets the "round master" know he
can't get a free channel.
> >
> > Hope you all had a good Christmas. I got some servos to help
> > complete Psyko #2.
> >
> > Ryan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > From: GordySoar at aol.com
> >
> > Correct me if I am wrong but I believe the general modeler believed
> > that with 2.4 all concerns for freq control were over....Millions
> > could all be on at once...there was the story about the huge heli
> > event with hundreds of attendees most enjoying the freedom of
2.4....hmmmn.
> >
> > Did you all believe that the amount of 2.4 TXs on at once was almost
> > unlimited?
> >
> >
> >
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