[LASS Soaring] Re: Soaring Digest, Vol 42, Issue 5

j.forney at insightbb.com j.forney at insightbb.com
Sun Aug 5 09:43:24 MDT 2007


I thought the question was, "Why only 4 new flyers in soaring at the NAT?"  And I offered my opinion and mine only.    John

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Date: Saturday, August 4, 2007 10:58
Subject: Soaring Digest, Vol 42, Issue 5
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> Canadian Soaring tasks tomorrow
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> great models make for bigger events.
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> Hey guys,
>  
> Can someone come up to the field tomorrow, say about 10am to 
> witness a  
> couple of landings and two 2min precision flights?
> 
> Let me know please.
> 
> Gordy
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> Subject: [LASS Soaring] Re: Soaring Digest, Vol 42, Issue 3
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> I still think that "Buy and Fly" is a factor.  Going to the 
> NATS is going to win.
> John
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> > Ben, Your coverage was really great.  I read it and 
> copied 
> > it  everyday.
> > > As to why more juniors and new people aren't at the NATs 
> > in  the 
> > > soaring contests, I think it's the cost of a 
> competative  
> > glider.  How 
> > > many can really afford the big bucks for the EU  
> > composits, before the 
> > > equipment goes in?
> > > John
> > 
> > 
> > John, your argument is one that gets trotted out every few years.
> >  
> > Stop and think about it a second....what is the point of going 
> > to the Nats  
> > with a 'competitive' glider?
> >  
> > If you aren't a pilot who practices the tasks and have honed 
> > your air  
> > reading and landing technique, its stilly to bother getting an 
> > expensive  ship;  
> > sort of like you buying a Stratovarius Violin then 
> taking  
> > lessons. 
> > However IF you are the kind of pilot who has been 'working' at 
> > improving  his 
> > air and landing skills....'that' is what justifies the cost of 
> a 
> > new  
> > model...the work, not the prize.
> >  
> > Lets keep in mind that  by winning the Nats, you get a 
> > trophy, not  exactly 
> > worth the cost of current top ship, so then why would guys 
> > spend  the money..if 
> > its not about winning a trophy?
> >  
> > You can go to the Nats, stay at the finest motel with jacuzzi, 
> > eat steak  and 
> > lobster (like me:-) or do it Ben style, tents and peanut 
> > butter...in the end  
> > its about the flying and frendships.
> > 
> > Both of those two things are available each Thursday evening 
> > and  
> > Sundays...right on our own field....fly what you bring :-)
> > Gordy
> > Chicago beaches today
> > 
> > They buy them because they can and because they want to.
> >  
> > Going to the Nats to fly ...get it, they go to fly. You can 
> fly 
> > your  planes, 
> > or other planes, foamies or carbon.
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> I'll be out tomorrow.  I'll shoot for 10ish.
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> Brian
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> Okay John,
> So you are saying that if the Nats was restricted to models 
> costing under  
> $200, you'd attend?
> 
> We'll be flying foam this Sunday, you coming?
>  
> Gordy
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> Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 10:57:50 EDT
> From: GordySoar at aol.com
> Subject: [LASS Soaring]  Thinking is good but great models 
> make for
> bigger events.
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>  
> I still think that "Buy and Fly" is a factor.  Going to the 
> NATS is  going to 
> win.
> John
> 
> No problem with thinking John, but keep some perspective. You 
> fly once  every 
> couple of months, I try to fly every day somewhere in the USA 
> /  World.  With 
> lots and lots of guys of all experience ranges.
>  
> There aren't any 'cheap' models being produced because no one is 
> buying  
> them. Instead of burning $500 total on a cheap low tech model 
> set up, most guys  
> prefer to save up for a sailplane that is durable, flys well and 
> looks  great.
>  
> The 100" full house Spirit Elite full house ARF is about $130 
> done and  works 
> with another $150 in servos...they fly fantastic and are 
> contest  
> competitive, after all, you just need to find 10mins of air and 
> put the nose on  a spot 
> (piloting skills)...yet they can't give them away.
>  
> Going to the NATS for the week isn't about not having a super 
> plane, its  
> about having :
> the interest
> 6 nites of motel money
> entry fee
> transportation costs
> and of course equipment
>  
> You aren't flying super ships, you aren't flying low tech...you 
> just aren't  
> flying. Same for those who don't attend the nats.
>  
> See you tomorrow
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